Ep 86 – The Mountain of the Lord


Posted June 29th, 2014

Tom, Matt, and Randy review the LDS movie “The Mountain of the Lord.”

The movie can be seen online here:


  • Brad

    It is a fine example of the LDS church cherry picking history, skipping the very ugly and retelling the mildly awkward (like polygamy). The Mountain of the Lord… The Mountain of Propaganda….

    • simateoako

      I think the Danite and Blood Atonement parts of the movie were cut out of the final product.

  • Frank

    To the guys who kept defending this movie so much, all I could think was:

    Nostalgia’s a hell of a drug.

    • Randy_Snyder

      Thank you Frank. Lol!

  • Allison

    Hillary still holds the title for best listener outro, in my opinion. It’s the one to beat, people!

    This was a fun episode. I tried to watch the movie in preparation for listening, but I could only stomach it with the sound turned all the way down. I kept it on in the background while I read a book. Every once in a while I looked up and laughed at the stupid Brigham Young beards everyone was sporting. I highly recommend “watching” it this way.

  • Chad

    Really entertaining pod. Thanks.

  • Mike

    Hey Randy,

    I am a born again Christian and I just listened to the first
    part of your story on another site and I
    cant imagine what it would be like to be in your shoes, wow that would be very
    difficult to walk away, it takes guts.

    Anyway im not nor
    ever have been a Mormon but one thing that stands out to me from just listening
    to the first part of this interview is how you said “you follow the evidence
    wherever it leads” and for whatever reason I remembered a true crime
    show that I watched a while back about a man from Texas who was convicted of
    murdering his wife all the while professing his innocence . After spending 25
    years in jail a non profit legal firm decided to look into his case and what
    they found was a police interview with the mans child who was very young at the
    time but turns out he saw his mom being murdered. Anyway he told the police
    that it was not his dad and he gave a description of the killer to them.

    Well the problem was all the evidence was turned over to the
    defense team at the original trial except this interview and as a result the
    man was wrongly convicted and spent 25 years of his life in prison.

    You see the prosecutor didn’t follow the evidence wherever
    it led but formed an opinion in his mind and only followed the evidence that
    supported his opinion which led to a devastating result.

    So my question to you would be what evidence are you
    following? It sounds like your only reading books and listening to podcast from like minded people ,( I could be wrong like I
    said I only listened to the first part of your interview) but that would be
    like sitting on a jury in a case where only the prosecution was allowed to
    present its case and the defense team could only sit and watch, what do you
    think the verdict would be?

    I would challenge you to read a couple of books from an
    opposing point of view.

    Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis

    C.S. Lewis was a scholar and
    professor of English Lit. at Oxford University and a professing atheist who in his own words

    “In the Trinity Term of 1929 I gave in, and
    admitted that God was God, and knelt and prayed: perhaps, that night, the most
    dejected and reluctant convert in all England”

    The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel ,

    Lee has
    a Masters degree from Yale law school and was the legal editor of the Chicago Tribune also an
    atheist who decided to put Christianity on trial just like the legal case’s he
    had covered as a journalist to prove Christianity wrong. This book chronicles
    his investigation into the facts. In
    Lee’s words

    “some point during my
    investigation a came to a point where I said , I want to know the Truth, if Buddhism
    is correct ill become a Buddhist , if
    Mormonism is it ill be a Mormon, if the evidence leads to there is no God , ill
    live my life accordingly but I want to know the Truth”

    Lee gave his life to Christ .

    Also read the New Testament,
    written by eye witnesses to the life, death and resurrection of Christ that’s where I
    would start.

    Also if you go to kwave.com and
    listen to a program called Pastors Perspective, it’s a call in radio show where
    people ask questions and a couple of Christian Pastors answer them.

    Or a website called Hischannel.com
    there is lots of research material there.

    I hope this challenges you to seek

    16 For
    God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes
    in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For
    God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the
    world through him.

    JOHN 3:16 & 17

    • Randy_Snyder

      Mike thanks for your sincere challenge. I appreciate the respectful way you have challenged me. We are actually going to record a podcast soon based on this post of yours. Stay tuned.

      • Mike

        great! cant wait to hear it.

        • Glenn

          So Mike, did you listen yet? Thanks for the inspiration — I hope it came across in our episode, but despite all the playful banter, I genuinely feel a strong affinity and kinship to the passionate believing zeal I expect that you possess — the desire to share what you love, you know? So anytime you want to come and talk to us in person and tell us everything we got wrong, just let us know. 🙂

  • simateoako

    Having served my mission in the Philippines, I can relate to showing films like this to people living in shacks with tin roofs, plywood walls, and often times no doors.

    I showed “Legacy” to my zone for one zone meeting, hoping to inspire faith. Of course, half of my zone were native Filipinos who had nothing more than a bamboo hut to return home to after their missionary service.

    Showing “On the Way Home” seemed like a grand idea to inspire members to be better missionaries, but most of these people owned no more than two pair of clothes, so the lifestyle of everyone on the film was extravagant.

    In other words, these films serve as nothing more than fodder for the converted, and more than anything, fodder for the American Mormons. If there is any evidence that the Corporate Headquarters of the church doesn’t understand it’s membership (or the rest of the world for that matter) it is that these movies exist.

    Still excited to watch “The Emma Smith Story” though…

  • kerri

    You guys (except Randy) trying to give this film anything over 4 stars are INSANE. I remember my feelings watching it while a believer, but I never thought it was decent acting or dialogue or that the reporter was a believable character. It was always clearly a “church movie” not comparable to Hollywood, production value notwithstanding. BUT Randy’s examples of “10” movies are too esoteric (I’ve never heard of them but did add The Bruges to my Netflix queue) so I’ll tell you my score and “10”s. I’d give Mountain of the Lord: 3 out of 10. The Matrix gets 7 or 8, hmmm, 7 for using too much time on slow-mo bullets and bad acting by the lead. A much better similar genre film is V for Vendetta. A perfect 10 for me is Gandhi, The Godfather, Good Will Hunting; in foreign films Life is Beautiful, and Children of Heaven; and comedies such as When Harry Met Sally, Wedding Singer, and About a Boy.

    • Randy_Snyder

      Remember I said I wouldn’t give In Bruges a 10. A 9 maybe. The Sweet Hereafter is a 9.5 but I just struggle giving anything a 10. I agree that The Godfather is right up there as an all-timer. Raiders of the Lost Ark and Goodfellas come to mind. The Big Lebowski for a comedy.

      But let’s face it. Tom and Matt giving this an 8 puts it in lofty cinematic air! Are they fucking crazy??!! Well Matt was drunk so I guess that’s his excuse.

      • Matt

        Did I really give it an 8? Ok, so I plead temporary insanity, or is that hyperbole? I now cede that anything more than a 4 is insanity.

  • Nate

    You guys should do the early Mormon movie ‘Savage Journey’, staring Night Courts Bull as Joseph Smith.

  • hetaira

    Sorry for the tardy comment – just got to this one. As a never-mo I found it hard to watch as anything other than propaganda, though I tried. For a bunch of rough-life-living pioneers why were they all so good-looking and clean? The actor doing Brigham Young was using such a creepy-stentorious tone that I honestly wanted to check the credits to see if it was acted by one and voiced-over by someone else. And Hillary was right about the Joseph Smith actor – is he indeed the guy they use as a model for paintings of him? And OMG the slogging pace… It was mildly interesting but seriously doesn’t stand alone as a good movie. I’d really like you to review the newer movie The Saratov Approach. I watched it recently at the urging of a mormon pal and though I found it a pretty good movie on its own it’s still chock-full-o-uplifting-faith. I’m afraid I let down my pal by commenting on the fine acting rather than asking him to take me to 3 hours of church sometime.

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